Edward William Treadaway Hoare jr was born
September 3rd 1885, at 83 Avenell(?) Road, Islington,
Highbury, the elder of the two sons of EWTH and his first wife, Alice
Jane Hoare née Day.
The couple's second son was
Edmund Joseph Downer
Hoare, born April 5th 1889,
at 83 Parkhurst Road, St Mary, Islington.
Alice and EWTH separated in 1895. They
were shown living together with their two sons in the 1891 census, at
83 Parkhurst Road, St Mary, Islington. Then on EWTH's father's 1897 death certificate, EWTH stated
his residence to be 31 Aldersgate, the tavern owned by his father.
The 1901 census lists both Alice and EWTH, but shows them living separately,
he alone (with a housekeeper) in Musbury House in Devon, she in a boarding
house in Aldershot. Their two sons are not listed as being with
either of them, nor can the boys be found elsewhere in that census. Perhaps
they were out of the country at the time (possibly in France where EWTH
was said to have visited frequently).
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The only other information we've been able to find on the older
brother, EWTH jr, is the registration of his marriage to Dorothy Dora
Tisdall, 20, at the Register Office in Edmonton, Middlesex, on 26 Feb
1910. He lists his occupation on the marriage certificate as Architect
and Surveyor. The bride's father, Joseph Tisdall, is shown as being
an Electrotyper. The address given for both is 60 Stanmore Rd, Tottenham.
Witnesses were Elizabeth Potter and Rosina Ada Brown.
The couple had at least one child, Basil, born April 1914, Belham,
but who sadly died a month later on May 28th. The address given on
the death certificate was at 161 Bedford Hill, father's occupation Draughtsman
and Architect.
There's a listing in the London 1914 Directory, under Taverns, for
"Ship and Lion, Edward Hoare, 65 Ropemakers’ fields, Limehouse E."
There's no evidence one way or another that the pub's proprietor was EWTH
jr, or his father, or another Edward Hoare entirely, but the name, location,
and the family's traditional occupation as licensed victuallers are suggestive.
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The only other information we've been able to find on the younger
brother, Edmund, is a record of two medals he was awarded for service
in WWI.
The file in the National Archives
( http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
) reads as follows:
Medal card of Hoare, Edmond Joseph D
Corps:
Regiment No
Rank
Honourable Artillery Company Infantry
5415
Private
Royal Flying Corps
Second Lieutenant
Border Regiment
Second Lieutenant
Date:
1914-1920
Medals Awarded:
Victory;
British
Theater of War Served In:
France; entered therein: October 1916
Record:
Roll TP/107B; Page 38
Catalogue reference WO 372/9links to the Catalogue
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The Medals Archives site also lists several Edward Hoares, even an
Edward W and an Edward William Hoare, but there seems to be no way of
knowing if they're ours, absent other data such as age and/or location
of birth or residence.